Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast
Patrick Van der Burght: Ethical Persuasion Part 2 The Seven Universal Principles of Persuasion
About Patrick Van der Burght: Patrick van der Burght is an international expert in ethical persuasion, influence, and decision-making. He is a business partner of Dr. Robert Cialdini—author of Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion—and a founding member of the Cialdini Institute, the only active, licensed Cialdini Institute worldwide.
A certified influence specialist and trainer across Australia and New Zealand, Patrick has spent over two decades teaching professionals how to persuade ethically, accelerate results, and build stronger relationships across sales, leadership, marketing, and team environments. He is also the co-author of How to Hear “Yes” More Often (2024) and host of the podcast Ethical Persuasion Unlocked.
In this episode, Jennie and Patrick Van der Burght discuss:
- The seven universal principles of persuasion derived from Cialdini’s research
- The distinction between genuine reciprocity and gated lead magnets as rewards
- The roles of liking and unity in building rapport and a sense of shared identity
- The use of social proof and authority to enhance credibility and influence
- The impact of consistency and scarcity on ethical decision-making and behavior
Key Takeaways:
- Ethical persuasion is not about clever wording; it is about aligning your message with how people naturally make decisions.
- Clarity reduces friction. When buyers clearly understand what happens next, they feel safer saying yes.
- Trust is built not through volume or urgency but through consistency, credibility, and honesty over time.
- Authority works best when it is demonstrated rather than declared, especially in relationship-based sales models like direct selling.
- When persuasion principles are applied with integrity, decisions feel easier, faster, and more empowering for everyone involved.
“Information is not really power. Application skill is power, and I would argue that you need confidence to go along with it.” — Patrick Van der Burght
Connect with Patrick Van der Burght:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-van-der-burght
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/patrick.burght/
CONNECT WITH JENNIE:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/badassdirectsalesmastery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Show: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/blog/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
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Patrick Van der Burght: Ethical Persuasion Part 1 How People Make Decisions
About Patrick Van der Burght: Patrick van der Burght is an international expert in ethical persuasion, influence, and decision-making. He is a business partner of Dr. Robert Cialdini—author of Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion—and a founding member of the Cialdini Institute, the only active, licensed Cialdini Institute worldwide.
A certified influence specialist and trainer across Australia and New Zealand, Patrick has spent over two decades teaching professionals how to persuade ethically, accelerate results, and build stronger relationships across sales, leadership, marketing, and team environments. He is also the co-author of How to Hear “Yes” More Often (2024) and host of the podcast Ethical Persuasion Unlocked.
In this episode, Jennie and Patrick Van der Burght discuss:
- Why persuasion is not manipulation—and how ethical influence creates lasting behavior change
- The science of decision-making through Daniel Kahneman’s System One and System Two thinking
- Why selling feels harder today as attention spans continue to shrink
- How logical arguments often fail to move people toward action
- Why Dr. Cialdini’s principles of persuasion act as decision triggers rather than sales tactics
Key Takeaways:
- Persuasion isn’t about pushing—it’s about prompting. The most powerful influence happens when people feel, “I chose this,” not “I was sold this.”
- Your brain’s autopilot (System One) makes most decisions. If your message is 100% logic and data, it’s speaking to the 5% that decides the least.
- Attention is today’s scarcest resource. In a world of pings, pop-ups, and endless scroll, there’s rarely enough focus left to run deep, analytical thinking.
- When sales conversations rely only on rational explanations, they often create indecision rather than clarity.
- Ethical persuasion activates the right mental shortcuts so people can decide faster, with confidence, and without regret.
“I would argue that a lot of those no’s aren’t actually no’s. They’re indecision.” — Patrick Van der Burght
Connect with Patrick Van der Burght:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-van-der-burght
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/patrick.burght/
CONNECT WITH JENNIE:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/badassdirectsalesmastery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Show: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/blog/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
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Lynn Whitbeck: “Do me a favor?” Sales That Get Referrals
About Lynn Whitbeck: Lynn Whitbeck is the Queen of Joyful Sales. Business Owners hire Lynn to ignite winning sales because most fail to create consistent, repeatable, and scalable growth. Lynn is the Founder and CEO of Petite2Queen, an Amazon Best-Selling Author, Speaker, and Host of Claim Your Career Crown and the Get More Clients shows. She loves visiting National Parks, cooking, and playing Pokémon Go.
In this episode, Jennie and Lynn discuss:
- How deeply understanding your ideal client’s story reduces resistance
- How a simple, repeatable interview process reveals how buyers really decide
- Why treating sales as service makes conversations easier
- How direct sellers can stop chasing and start attracting aligned buyers
- Why ethical, buyer-focused sales build long-term relationships
Key Takeaways:
- Salespeople don’t have to feel uncomfortable when the focus shifts from persuasion to service.
- Buyers don’t want to be pushed; they want to be understood, guided, and respected throughout the process.
- Listening to your clients’ real stories and emotions lets you meet them where they are before you ever ask for a decision.
- When sellers listen more than they talk, trust grows—and trust shortens the sales cycle.
- Selling with integrity isn’t slower or less profitable; it’s more sustainable and far more fulfilling.
“Knowledge is only good when you apply it. We learn by doing.” — Lynn Whitbeck
Free Gift: Get your FREE copy of Lynn’s book, Get More Clients: https://dl.bookfunnel.com/yfr2u4ivvo
Connect with Lynn Whitbeck:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/petite2queen/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnwhitbeck
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/petite2queen/
CONNECT WITH JENNIE:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/badassdirectsalesmastery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Show: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/blog/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
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Billy Sammons: Warm Marketing Strategies That Work
About Billy Sammons: Billy is a man on a mission to flip traditional marketing on its head. He is the founder of Live Local Marketing, where he’s helping entrepreneurs stop chasing cold leads and start building real relationships that convert.
What began as a simple belief — that community is the most powerful marketing strategy on earth — has grown into his signature Warm Marketing Framework, used by business owners who are done feeling invisible. Billy teaches how to turn the people around you into advocates through service, storytelling, and genuine human connection.
He blends heart, psychology, and experience to help business owners grow without selling their soul. And through his newest project, The Live Local Show, he’s spotlighting entrepreneurs who are marketing the right way — with purpose and heart.
In this episode, Jennie and Billy discuss:
- Billy’s origin story and community-based marketing
- The warm marketing framework for relationship-first growth
- Referrals versus paid advertising and common marketing mistakes
- The Live Local Marketing ecosystem of supports and resources
Key Takeaways:
- Referrals beat cold leads. Building real relationships with local business owners generates more reliable, higher-conversion referrals than buying leads or relying on paid ads.
- Give before you ask. Creating simple podcasts, videos, or “commercials” for other businesses is a powerful “give” that builds trust and long-term referral partnerships.
- Community is a marketing strategy. When you intentionally embed yourself in your local community—events, collaborations, and charity work—your business grows alongside your impact.
- Warm marketing is learnable and repeatable. Billy’s warm marketing framework provides a clear, step-by-step path (course, book, membership, and challenge) to grow a business through service and connection instead of hard selling.
“If you start adding value now and doing with intention, you can be that guy that sits in his chair, and referrals come your way, and you’re not paying for ads and doing everything. And that’s, I think, the easier way to do it.” — Billy Sammons
Free Gift: 5 Day Warm Marketing Challenge for Entrepreneurs: https://www.livelocalwarmmarketing.com/
Connect with Billy Sammons:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-sammons-9951181a/
CONNECT WITH JENNIE:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/badassdirectsalesmastery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Show: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/blog/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/badassdirectsalesmastery/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
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Jill Katzenberg: How Gratitude Saved a Life and Grows a Business
About Jill Katzenberg: Jill Katzenberg is a gratitude consultant who believes success in network marketing begins with genuine connection. She guides entrepreneurs to use gratitude as their greatest tool, transforming simple acts of kindness into stronger relationships, bigger opportunities, and lasting impact. For Jill, gratitude isn’t just a practice; it’s a movement.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger and Jill Katzenberg discuss:
- How gratitude became Jill’s most powerful business-building tool.
- The difference between appreciation marketing and traditional outreach.
- Why printed and digital cards create deeper client and team connections.
- How direct sellers can stand out in a saturated market through relationship-building.
- Real-life stories of how small acts of kindness created massive emotional impact.
Key Takeaways:
- Gratitude is a business multiplier — the smallest heartfelt gesture can create loyalty that marketing alone can’t buy.
- Standing out doesn’t require louder promotions; it requires a deeper connection, especially in industries overflowing with competition.
- Printed cards still matter. In a world drowning in digital noise, something tangible feels personal, rare, and meaningful.
- Consistent appreciation builds trust, and trust builds teams. It strengthens customer relationships and empowers your downline.
- At its core, appreciation marketing is about recognizing people, seeing them, and reminding them they matter — and that changes everything.
“Let’s be honest, most people don’t need or want a second job. If they’re going to do something to earn extra dollars, then they want to have fun doing it.” — Jill Katzenberg
Connect with Jill Katzenberg:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/5stardiva/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jillkatzenberg
Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Angelica Rayco
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Karina Jermuss: Success is a Mindset (So is stress…)
About Karina Jermuss:
Karina Jermuss has worked with leading banks, IT, and retail companies as a trainer, coach, and consultant. She has achieved meaningful business results, for which she was awarded the national business prize “Business Tiger.” As an experienced team leader, she has always been recognized for her humanity and ability to motivate everyone to achieve high productivity and meaningful business outcomes. She strongly believes in quantum physics, positive NLP, and the idea that everyone can achieve any goals they dream of.
Karina Jermuss is an experienced business development and marketing professional with over 20 years of experience. At Erickson Coaching International (Canada), she studied coaching and earned certificates in business, personal, and team coaching. She never stops learning. Additionally, she has studied the conscious and subconscious mind, as well as brain structure. She consistently finds the most effective solutions for each client. Additionally, she holds an MBA.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger and Karina Jermuss discuss:
- Why traditional, power-driven leadership models are outdated—and what to replace them with.
- How stress affects productivity and how leaders can help themselves and their teams manage it.
- The importance of emotional intelligence and honesty in creating trust within a team.
- How to give constructive feedback using the “feedback sandwich” method that motivates rather than discourages.
- The ripple effect of positivity and mindset shifts on both leadership and life.
Key Takeaways:
- True leadership isn’t about authority—it’s about creating safety, trust, and belonging within your team.
- When stress takes over, productivity drops by up to 60%. Managing your mindset first is managing your business well.
- The “feedback sandwich” isn’t about sugarcoating; it’s about inspiring improvement while keeping morale high.
- Positivity is magnetic. The energy you bring to your team determines the energy you’ll get back.
- Success begins in the mind. Shift your thoughts, and your outcomes follow.
“If you create in yourself energy you want to get back from people, it’s a magnet. If you start to spread love, mild positivity, it automatically goes around you, and it comes back.”— Karina Jermuss
Free Resource from Karina
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Connect with Karina Jermuss:
Website: https://tuetmundus-academy.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/karina.jermuss/
Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Angelica Rayco
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Jenn Lopez & Bryan Scott: A Man in a Woman’s World
About Jenn Lopez and Bryan Scott:
Jenn Lopez and Bryan Scott are the powerhouse duo redefining direct sales through Bomb Party, the surprise jewelry reveal company blending fun, sparkle, and entrepreneurship.
Jenn, a former travel nurse, discovered Bomb Party during the pandemic and went from hesitant beginner to top 25 seller in just a few months. What started as a side hobby from her South Dakota nursing apartment has since turned into a full-fledged career leading one of the fastest-growing teams in the company, the Fiesta Fam.
Bryan, once a banker and food truck owner, joined the adventure after seeing Jenn’s TikTok lives. He quickly found his rhythm in a female-dominated space—bringing humor, warmth, and a fearless attitude to every reveal. Together, they’re proving that community, connection, and courage are the secret ingredients to thriving in the world of direct sales.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger, Jenn Lopez, and Bryan Scott discuss:
- How Bomb Party combines fun, surprise, and entrepreneurship through live jewelry reveals.
- Jenn’s journey from hesitant nurse to confident top seller and team leader.
- Bryan’s unexpected leap into a “women’s world” and how he carved his niche.
- The role of TikTok and social media growth strategies for modern direct sellers.
- How mentorship, leadership, and teamwork create sustainable business momentum.
Key Takeaways:
- Every rep has two start dates: the day they buy their kit, and the moment they finally believe they can do it.
- Success often begins with hesitation—Jenn’s story proves that courage grows through small, consistent action.
- TikTok may be unpredictable, but when paired with authenticity and community, it becomes a powerful sales engine.
- Leadership is more than motivation; it’s equipping others with the confidence and tools to succeed on their own.
- Authenticity outshines polish. People connect with the human behind the hustle, not the highlight reel.
“I’m a firm believer in being coachable. And so I’ve been as hard as it is with our relationship, me and Jenn, I’ve been able to be a very coachable, and she’s been really guiding my footsteps.” — Bryan Scott
“Everybody joins for their own reason… Some people just want an extra 500 or $1,000 a month, and that’s their why, right, to supplement their income. Some people want to replace it as their full-time job… Whatever their why is, I want to be there to support them and their why and help them be able to grow their business.” — Jenn Lopez
Connect with Jenn Lopez and Bryan Scott:
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@BPFizzyFiesta
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jennlopezfiesta
Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez
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Monica Walls: How Heritage and Story Are Building Her Brand
About Monica Walls:
Monica Walls is a people-powered powerhouse with a passport full of stories and a heart wired for human connection. From the boardrooms of Silicon Valley to the sidewalks of global cities, Monica has always led with purpose, whether as an HR exec orchestrating change or as a volunteer rolling up her sleeves at food drives and walk-a-thons.
But the corporate grind couldn’t contain her creative spirit for long. Fueled by her Croatian roots, wanderlust, and a splash of bold lipstick, Monica stepped into her next chapter as the founder of Keca’s Usna: a lip color line where every shade has a soul. Tired of formulas that flaked or felt uncomfortably sticky, she mixed science with sentiment to craft lipsticks that stay put and feel like a hug for your lips.
Keca’s Usna isn’t just makeup; it’s a love letter to heritage, storytelling, and the magic of being unapologetically you. Every hue celebrates individuality, every tube is rooted in values, and every swipe is a reminder: beauty is personal, powerful, and meant to be shared.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger and Monica Walls discuss:
- Corporate Life to Entrepreneurial Journey
- Lip Color Brand with Personal Heritage
- Building a Team and Delegating Tasks
- Product Development Challenges
- Confidence and Trusting Entrepreneurial Instincts
Key Takeaways:
- Monica’s journey demonstrates that personal frustration with existing products can spark innovative business ideas.
- Connecting products to personal heritage creates a powerful narrative that resonates with customers, and the Croatian roots of Keca’s Usna and meaningful color names transform lip color from a simple cosmetic to a storytelling medium.
- Successful entrepreneurs recognize their limitations and strategically bring in specialized talent.
- Creating high-quality lip color involves complex formulation processes beyond simple color mixing, meaning that rigorous testing, ingredient selection, and understanding customer needs are critical to developing a standout cosmetic product.
- Embracing vulnerability and learning from experiences can transform initial uncertainties into powerful entrepreneurial strengths.
“Your business ethics and your core values are what make you up as a person. And for me, those things are non-negotiable.” — Monica Walls
Connect with Monica Walls:
Facebook Business Page: https://www.facebook.com/kecasusna
LinkedIn URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicawalls/
Instagram Business Link: https://www.instagram.com/kecasusna/
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Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez
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Danielle Thompson: Unapologetically You: Building a Business on Your Own Terms
About Danielle Thompson:
Danielle is the founder of Goldspun Support – Helping Fractional Directors ditch the admin and reclaim the work they love. Operational partner. Strategic support. Business best friend. Co-podcast host on top ten charting “Business and a Brew”, best-selling author, loved by clients & audiences alike.
She’s part cheerleader, part operations ninja, and fully committed to helping brilliant women stop drowning in admin and start scaling with sanity. With 10+ years’ experience and zero time for fluff, Danielle’s all about practical fixes, proper freedom, and unapologetically running a business on your terms.
Burned out in corporate, allergic to hustle culture, and powered by mindset tools and Malibu and Coke – Danielle brings real talk, real solutions, and the kind of operational gold that makes business feel good, raising awareness of how to sustain inner connection to overcome challenges in life and business.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger and Danielle Thompson discuss:
- Resilience through personal challenges
- Breaking free from corporate burnout
- Listening to intuition and the universe’s signs
- Investing in personal growth
- Entrepreneurial success requires self-awareness
Key Takeaways:
- Resilience isn’t just a trait; it’s a skill you cultivate.
- Corporate burnout often becomes the catalyst for entrepreneurial journeys, and when traditional paths feel restrictive, listening to your inner voice can lead to transformative career decisions.
- Personal development directly impacts business potential – you are the lid on your own success.
- Authentic marketing trumps manipulative tactics that prey on fear and insecurity, and by creating genuine connections and offering real value, you can build sustainable relationships with clients and customers.
- Networking isn’t about immediate transactional gains, but long-term relationship building.
“My business exists because I suffered a lot of trauma that put me in a position where I was ready for change.” — Danielle Thompson
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Facebook Business Page: https://www.facebook.com/goldspunsupport
LinkedIn URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellethompson-goldspunsupport/
Instagram Link: https://www.instagram.com/goldspunsupport/
Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez
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Francoise Maricle: Hold Onto Your Dreams!
About Francoise Maricle:
Francoise Maricle was born two months premature in a Japanese internment camp in Indonesia during World War II. After the war, her family left the tropics they loved to return to a cold, overcrowded Netherlands, where they were met with indifference by the European Dutch. Seeking peace and belonging, Francoise eventually met her husband in Germany and later immigrated to the United States-where she found gratitude and healing. As a counselor supporting women in abusive relationships, Francoise discovered that sharing her own story created powerful connections. When women heard what she had endured, they became more open to facing their own challenges. Over time, she began speaking publicly about her life and was interviewed on both public radio and television. Writing her memoir took fifteen years, as long-buried emotions emerged in the process. Francoise now lives in Arizona, where the wide-open skies and warm climate offer the sense of freedom and peace she always longed for.
In this episode, Jennie Bellinger and Francoise Maricle discuss:
- Surviving internment camps in Indonesia
- Overcoming childhood limitations and doubts
- Pursuing dreams despite obstacles
- Importance of having a supportive partner
- Maintaining dreams and goals at any age
Key Takeaways:
- Dreams are ageless and powerful, as seen in Francoise, 83, who still continues to pursue adventures like ziplining and traveling, proving that aspirations have no expiration date.
- When others told her she couldn’t succeed, Francoise listened to her inner voice and became a psychologist with a master’s degree.
- Supportive relationships can transform personal limitations.
- Francoise’s survival in Japanese internment camps and subsequent displacement became the foundation for her determination to pursue her goals.
- By starting with modest aspirations like learning to drive, Francoise gradually built a life of adventure, education, and personal empowerment.
“I only have 17 more years to be 100 years old, and I have so many dreams on my bucket list. I got to have 17 more years in my life, so I just keep trying.” — Francoise Maricle
Connect with Francoise Maricle:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francoise-maricle-71b36217/
Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/francoise.maricle/?_rdc=1&_rdr#
Grab a Copy of Francoise’s book “Hold On to Your Dreams”
Link: https://books.google.com.ph/books/about/Hold_On_to_Your_Dreams.html?id=8Xp50QEACAAJ&redir_esc=y
Connect with Jennie:
Website: https://badassdirectsalesmastery.com/
Email: jennie@badassdirectsalesmastery.com
Facebook personal page: https://facebook.com/jbellingerPL
Facebook podcast page: http://facebook.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Facebook group for Badass Crew: https://facebook.com/groups/BadassDirectSalesMoms
Instagram: https://instagram.com/BadassDirectSalesMastery
Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirectsalesdomme/
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/BadassDirectSalesMastery
The Badass Direct Sales Mastery Podcast is currently sponsored by the following:
Bella Grace Elixir: https://shopbellagrace.com/?ref=jenniebadassdirectsalesmastery
LeadBuddy Digital Marketing: Use code BDSM when checking out at https://leadbuddy.io/pro-monthly-9310?am_id=jennie582
Show Notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez
Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
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